{"id":1044,"date":"2012-01-02T05:54:04","date_gmt":"2012-01-02T10:54:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/?p=1044"},"modified":"2012-01-01T18:39:08","modified_gmt":"2012-01-01T23:39:08","slug":"issue-284-january-2-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/2012\/01\/issue-284-january-2-2012\/","title":{"rendered":"Issue 284 &#8211; January 2, 2012"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Rule No. 48:<\/span><\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Want to create half-hearted Scouts?\u00a0 It\u2019s easy: Just wear a half-hearted uniform.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Rule No. 49:<\/span><\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>No boy can be saved from his own parents.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>My \u201cWinter Tale\u201d must have struck home for many readers\u2026 Thank you for your responses!\u00a0 I\u2019ve chosen one to represent all\u2026 This one is from a Scouting volunteer in Alaska whose troop \u201cadopted\u201d me as their Unit Commissioner\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>A big heartfelt thank you for that story.\u00a0 As I was reading it, I kept trying to read faster to keep up with the action.\u00a0 I kept thinking that no one writes like this today, yet the story had all the buzz-words of today\u2019s boys in it, like &#8220;texting.&#8221;\u00a0 Now you know that you have another skill, and I\u2019d be proud to sign you off on your &#8220;Storytelling&#8221; merit badge. (Bill Casler, Great Alaska Council)<\/strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Hi Andy,<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Is the Webelos ceremony for bridging into Boy Scouts a Cub Scout or a Boy Scout function?\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure who\u2019s responsible for this, and I don&#8217;t want to step on our Scoutmaster&#8217;s toes.\u00a0 Thanks for your help! (Mary Pat Tempert, WDL, Las Vegas Area Council, AZ)<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;bridging ceremony&#8221; is done at a pack meeting, and is directed by the pack&#8217;s adult volunteers; representatives of the troop or troops selected by the Webelos Scouts are invited to be present and to be part of the ceremony&#8211;the culmination of the ceremony, in fact&#8211;as they receive the new boys into their troop.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thanks!\u00a0\u00a0I just want to make sure I wasn\u2019t going to step on the troop\u2019s toes if I went ahead and planned this event for my second year Webelos. (Mary Pat)<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Just be sure you stay in close contact with the Scoutmaster, so he can invite the boys to visit, conference with them, conference with their parents, and then come to the pack meeting\u00a0 prepared to shake their hands and welcome them into the troop when the boys cross to the other side of the bridge.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Dear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>We have a small cub pack. My 4th grader son started as a Wolf, and is now a first-year Webelos. \u00a0As a Wolf, he was the only boy his age, so I functioned as his Den Leader and we met with the Bear den but worked on our own requirements. \u00a0When he became a Bear, we had two boys his age, and I was again the Den Leader. \u00a0But this year my son is the only 4th grader in the pack, and he&#8217;s been meeting with the 5th graders so far this year, including attending Webelos adventure camp with the older boys this past summer. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>My son has a November birthday, so he\u2019ll be 10-1\/2 by next June.\u00a0 If I read the requirements correctly, he could complete the Arrow of Light requirements probably by June, before he starts 5th grade, and join a Boy Scout troop then.\u00a0 Or, he could join Boy Scouts as a 5th grader when he turns 11 next November. He\u2019s expressed an interest in moving on to Boy Scouts sooner rather than later, because he has to do quite a bit alone, mostly without a den his own age.\u00a0 Another possible option might be for him to meet with the current Bear Cub Scout den, but they\u2019re a school-year behind him and he doesn&#8217;t know them as well (but we could probably live with it for a few months).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Our pack\u2019s traditional Arrow of Light and crossover ceremony is in late February.\u00a0 I know you\u2019re not a fan of cutting the Webelos program short, but given that his relationship is with the older boys (there are no boys his own age in the pack), maybe cutting it short makes sense here. What do you think? (Jim Witte)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;re right that I&#8217;m not a fan of rushing a boy through a year of Webelos Scouts and into Boy Scouting just for the sake of speed.\u00a0 But each situation, as you&#8217;ve discovered, is unique.\u00a0 In the case of your son, Cub Scouting has probably been a pretty lonesome time for him, even though he&#8217;s had Dad as his Akela. If he&#8217;s indeed the only 4th grader in the pack, you&#8217;ve definitely made the right decision to not send him backwards.\u00a0 Since\u2014assuming he&#8217;ll complete Arrow of Light by next June\u2014at 10-1\/2 plus that rank he&#8217;ll definitely be eligible to be a Boy Scout, graduating into Boy Scouts at that time seems to make most sense.\u00a0 The disadvantage to June is that he likely won&#8217;t have had time to bond with a troop before it&#8217;s time for summer camp, and you&#8217;ll definitely want him to go to camp in his first summer as a Boy Scout.\u00a0 So, in this case, I&#8217;d suggest that as soon as the new year begins, he should start visiting a couple of troops so that he can begin to form a relationship as early as possible, right along with the fifth grade boys.\u00a0 This way, when he graduates in June he&#8217;ll be ready to swing right into the troop of his choice and get to camp with them.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s the most important thing you\u2019ve done: You\u2019ve listened to him and learned what <em>he<\/em> would like to do!\u00a0 Now you both can make it happen!<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Dear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>In reading the requirements for the Scouter\u2019s Key and other awards that can be earned, they always refer to the term \u201cScoutmaster.\u201d \u00a0Does this mean you need to be a Scoutmaster, \u00a0or can you be an Assistant Scoutmaster to earn these awards? (Name &amp; Council Withheld)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;ve read correctly: Scoutmaster.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So to be eligible, I need to form my own troop. \u00a0And if so, then being an Assistant Scoutmaster seems to be a waste of time after a few years. (N&amp;CW)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To be eligible to earn the Scouter&#8217;s Key as a Scoutmaster, one would need to be a Scoutmaster.\u00a0 However, there are many volunteer positions in which one can earn this award\u2014check out: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scoutingbsa.org\/programs\/awards\/adult_leader_awards\/Scouter_Key_Award.html#SCOUTMASTER%27S%20KEY\" target=\"_blank\">www.scoutingbsa.org\/programs\/awards\/adult_leader_awards\/Scouter_Key_Award.html#SCOUTMASTER%27S%20KEY<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Understand that one of the requirements for the Scouter&#8217;s Key is earning the Scouter&#8217;s Training Award, which is definitely available for Assistant Scoutmasters&#8230; Have you done this?<\/p>\n<p>As for Assistant Scoutmaster being &#8220;a waste of time\u201d\u2014If you believe that helping boys and young men grow in citizenship, character, and physical and mental acuity is a waste of your time, then you definitely need to go find something to do that&#8217;s more rewarding for you.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Hello Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m a Boy Scout parent. Recently, we received updated troop guidelines for advancement, and I\u2019m wondering if these are actually things a troop can enforce (there are others, but these came out screaming at me)\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cThe BSA has defined many \u2018positions of responsibility\u2019 from which our troop has selected and classified the following as \u2018leadership positions\u2019: Patrol Leader, Instructor, Troop Guide, ASPL, JASM, or SPL. The troop believes scouts benefit most by serving in leadership positions to meet the appropriate rank requirements for<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Life and Eagle. \u00a0The troop expects Scouts to serve actively in one of the leadership positions listed above, especially Patrol Leader, before completing their rank requirements for Life.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cMerit badge Counselors must be approved before any work can be completed on the merit badge (e.g., signing \u201cblue cards\u201d). Only the Scoutmaster can approve Eagle-required merit badges. The Scoutmaster reserves the right to disallow any advancement or merit badge signed off by an unapproved individual.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cParents are not authorized to approve advancement or merit badge requirements for their son except when serving as merit badge counselor or instructor for a group of scouts at the same time.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Can a troop make these stipulations? (Name &amp; Council Withheld)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Scouting volunteers are expected by the BSA to deliver the program as written; in fact, volunteers signed what is effectively a covenant with the BSA to do so when they first applied.\u00a0 What a troop&#8217;s volunteer adults may or may not happen to believe is not relevant.\u00a0 Scouting units are prohibited by BSA policy from imposing more (or less) stringent requirements on scouts&#8217; advancement that what the BSA has specified; no troop&#8217;s &#8220;beliefs&#8221; may supersede written BSA requirements in any way.\u00a0 The BSA has stated that a Scout will meet Star requirement 5 or Life requirement 5 by holding any one (or more) of these positions for a period of four or six months, respectively: Patrol Leader, Assistant Senior Patrol Leader, Venture Patrol Leader, Troop Guide, OA Troop Representative, Den Chief, Scribe, Librarian, Historian, Quartermaster, Bugler, Junior Assistant Scoutmaster, Chaplain Aide, Instructor, Troop Webmaster, LNT Trainer.\u00a0 Any troop imposing more limited boundaries than these 16 positions it is in violation of BSA policy.\u00a0 (This is not my &#8220;opinion&#8221;&#8211;this is fact.)<\/p>\n<p>Councils, not troops, approve Merit Badge Counselors.\u00a0 Councils provide lists of vetted and registered Merit Badge Counselors to troops.\u00a0 Troops are expected to direct Scouts seeking a merit badge to one or more of the counselors on the council or district list.\u00a0 It is a BSA national policy that only registered Merit Badge Counselors are authorized to sign applications (aka &#8220;blue cards&#8221;) signifying completion of the requirements for a merit badge.\u00a0 Furthermore, no re-testing of any signed-off merit badge or merit badge requirement(s) is permitted by anyone, ever.<\/p>\n<p>Being a Scout&#8217;s parent does not authorize the signing off of any requirement for any rank or merit badge.\u00a0 Requirement sign-offs may be done only by persons authorized to do so by way of their registration with the BSA. (In other words, Boy Scouts isn&#8217;t &#8220;Webelos 3&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>Further, the BSA permits registered Merit Badge Counselors to counsel their own relatives (e.g., son, nephew).<\/p>\n<p>Based on what you\u2019ve forwarded to me, it strikes me that your son may well be in a perhaps well-meaning but nevertheless highly autocratic (to the edge of renegade) troop.\u00a0 Are you certain you want him to grow up in this sort of distorted Scouting environment?<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Dear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Can I give our local Boy Scout council $1,000 and direct that it to go into the council account for a specific unit and earn the James E. West award, or does the money have to go directly to council and stay there? I know it can\u2019t be used for FOS money. (Mandy Martensen)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>James E. West Fellowship donations must, by policy, go into a council&#8217;s endowment fund and may never be spent\u2014only the interest or dividends endowment funds produce, never the principle, may be used by a council.\u00a0 This means that however worthy and considerate your idea, the James E. West Fellowship isn&#8217;t the route to take to achieve your end-result of having the funds flow directly to a specific troop.\u00a0 You&#8217;re also correct that FOS donations stay with the council and become a part of the council&#8217;s general operating fund.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to give money to a troop, it&#8217;s permissible for the troop to accept the donation (the BSA fiscal policy on this states that while no Scouting unit may actively solicit donations, if someone wishes to spontaneously give money directly to a unit, the unit is at liberty to accept the donation).\u00a0 So, if you want to give that sum to a troop, and would like it to be a legitimate tax deduction per IRS standards, ask the troop to provide you with the tax ID number of their sponsor, because the sponsor is most likely a 501(c)(3) organization and since it literally owns the troop its own tax ID number applies.<\/p>\n<p>(All of this stated, do understand that I&#8217;m neither an IRS employee or expert, a CPA, or an attorney; I&#8217;m simply paraphrasing BSA fiscal policies and guidelines.\u00a0 Check with your council\u2019s revenue development committee or legal counsel before proceeding further.)<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Dear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m the awards chairman for my council.\u00a0 I have a problem concerning the Silver Beaver Award.\u00a0 We have folks on different sides of an issue and I\u2019d like to find the official policy on it.\u00a0 Here is the issue:\u00a0 We have a person who has been involved in Scouting for many years and has been nominated for the Silver Beaver Award.\u00a0 By vocation, this person is a school teacher, and so is employed by our council in the summer as Camp Director\u2014effectively a paid employee, not a volunteer, during these summer weeks.\u00a0 One side of the argument is that if a person is, <em>or has even been<\/em>, a council employee, then he or she can\u2019t be considered for Silver Beaver.\u00a0 The other side is that this person has been involved as a Scouting volunteer at the unit, district, and council levels for many years, and only works at the camp for a few weeks in the summer; thus should be eligible for Silver Beaver recognition based on the <em>volunteer<\/em> service to Scouting.\u00a0 Can you help us sort this out? (Name &amp; Council Withheld)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The answer is here: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scouting.org\/filestore\/pdf\/92-103.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">www.scouting.org\/filestore\/pdf\/92-103.pdf<\/a>.\u00a0 This is where you&#8217;ll find the BSA&#8217;s policy and not my or anyone else&#8217;s opinion.\u00a0 The Silver Beaver Award is for volunteer contributions to Scouting.\u00a0 Service as the result of employment is not a consideration.<\/p>\n<p>Those who would like to nominate this (or any other) person for the Silver Beaver Award should go to the link I&#8217;ve provided, fill out the nomination form as written, and submit it for your committee&#8217;s consideration.\u00a0 If, in the case you\u2019ve described, this person has indeed rendered service to youth of an exceptional nature, and employment is not described (because there&#8217;s actually no place for it on the form!), then this person can certainly be considered a viable candidate.\u00a0 Having been employed by the council in a seasonal position should in no way disqualify a person from Silver Beaver or any other recognition, provided the volunteer commitment and performance \u201cabove and beyond\u201d is there.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Dear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m the new Scoutmaster of a 50 year-old troop.\u00a0 I\u2019ve taken the necessary training before taking on this position: Fast-Start, Youth Protection, Position Specific-Scoutmaster, and Intro to Outdoor Leadership Skills.\u00a0 Along the way, The Patrol Method, including the Patrol Leaders Council (PLC), has been addressed, but this troop and my training don\u2019t seem to match up.\u00a0 Training says the PLC is led by the Senior Patrol Leader and includes the Patrol Leaders (or APL if the PL is absent), and Troop Guides if there are new-Scout patrols still in their first year of Boy Scouts, plus the troop\u2019s Scribe to take notes, and that\u2019s all. But this troop includes every Scout with a \u201cposition patch\u201d on his left sleeve\u2014Scribe, Quartermaster, Historian, Webmaster, all Instructors, OA Troop Representative, all Den Chiefs, and even the Chaplain Aide\u2014and when I asked the answer was this is what they\u2019ve always done.\u00a0 What\u2019s right?\u00a0 Or are both right?\u00a0 I need some help here. (Hal Facre, Three Rivers Council)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The training you took was correct and the troop is doing it wrong.\u00a0 The Scouts that hold positions other than Patrol Leader are patrol members and are therefore already represented at the PLC by their own Patrol Leaders.\u00a0 To include them as well not only creates an imbalance in representation but it also creates an unwieldy mass of Scouts, all vying for a \u201cvoice\u201d in the meeting.\u00a0 Any troop organization chart in any BSA publication shows this clearly, and absolutely consistently.<\/p>\n<p>As the troop\u2019s new Scoutmaster, you have an excellent opportunity to fix this so the troop and its PLC operate more efficiently and ultimately effectively.\u00a0 First, have a conversation with your Committee Chair (bring your <em>SCOUTMASTER HANDBOOK<\/em> to the table, so you have an authoritative document right in front of you, for you both to look examine), describe to the Committee Chair what you intend to do (you do have the individual authority to make this change, because, as Scoutmaster, you\u2019re responsible for troop program, and troop program emanates specifically from the PLC), and reach an agreement that this is what will happen at the very next PLC meeting.<\/p>\n<p>One more point: This isn\u2019t something to \u201cease into\u201d\u2026 It needs to happen just once, completely, and then move on.\u00a0 Finally, folks need to not worry about making this change when they\u2019ve been doing it this way \u201cforever,\u201d because, unfortunately, what that they\u2019ve been doing has been wrong \u201cforever.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>HappY ScOuTing!<\/strong><\/p>\n<form>\n<h3>Andy<\/h3>\n<p>(No. 284 &#8211; 1\/2\/2012 \u2013 Copyright \u00a9 Andy McCommish 2012)<\/p>\n<\/form>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rule No. 48: Want to create half-hearted Scouts?\u00a0 It\u2019s easy: Just wear a half-hearted uniform. 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