{"id":1594,"date":"2014-01-15T10:45:04","date_gmt":"2014-01-15T15:45:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/?p=1594"},"modified":"2014-01-15T10:45:04","modified_gmt":"2014-01-15T15:45:04","slug":"issue-380-january-15-2014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/2014\/01\/issue-380-january-15-2014\/","title":{"rendered":"Issue 380 \u2013 January 15, 2014"},"content":{"rendered":"

________________________________________
\nDear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019m a Scoutmaster and find myself with a bit of a dilemma between a Scout and a small group of irate parents. This Scout is presently Life rank. He\u2019s just about completed all requirements for the Eagle Scout rank. My observations tell me that he\u2019s an exceptional Scout. He\u2019s truly living the Scout Oath and Law in his daily life and has been one of the best Senior Patrol Leaders I’ve ever had the pleasure of working with. In addition to being an active Scout, he\u2019s very active in his church and has, in fact, served as our troop\u2019s Chaplain Aide prior to being elected Senior Patrol Leader. He\u2019s a bright, thoughtful, and passionate young man, and is set to graduate from high school shortly with high honors. His \u201clife plan\u201d is to become a lawyer and then fulfill his duty to his country by ultimately becoming a judge. To begin this pathway, he\u2019s just been accepted into a great pre-law program at an excellent university.<\/strong><\/p>\n

However, there\u2019s a glitch. Some members of our troop committee want to see this young man not only removed from his position as Senior Patrol Leader but denied Eagle Scout rank as well. Two of these have even called for removing him from the troop and Scouting altogether.<\/strong><\/p>\n

The impetus for this is that this Scout does not say the words \u201cunder God\u201d when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. When it\u2019s recited at troop meetings (and each day at school) he will recite the Pledge along with everyone else, but, when it reaches the \u201c\u2026one nation under God\u2026\u201d part he pauses and does not voice the words \u201cunder God.\u201d (Following those two words, he continues right along with everyone else.) Importantly, as far as I\u2019m concerned, as his Scoutmaster (and mentor), he doesn\u2019t make a big stink (or even a small fuss) about this, and is consistently respectful of those who do recite the full Pledge. (In fact, had it not been pointed out that his lips weren\u2019t moving on those two words, I never would have even noticed!)<\/strong><\/p>\n

In speaking with him about this, he has expressed the opinion that the words \u201cunder God\u201d carry an implication of a union between \u201cchurch\u201d and \u201cstate.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

If this were all that\u2019s occurred, it might be a tiny matter, not worth any further conversation. But, as it turns out, this isn\u2019t the end of the story. Recently, his high school\u2019s newspaper carried an opinion piece he\u2019d written about the inclusion of the words \u201cunder God\u201d and how they should be removed from the Pledge because they, in his opinion, violate the separation of church and state, and that the reference to God (which was added to the Pledge in the 1950s) should not be in a public oath of our country. Apparently, the parents of some of his peers in the troop saw this piece when their own sons brought the newspaper home, and thus this borderline firestorm.<\/strong><\/p>\n

In conferences with this Scout, I have no doubt in my mind that he personally believes in God. As I mentioned, he\u2019s actively involved with his church. Moreover, he has no problem saying the words \u201cduty to God\u201d in the Scout Oath or leading mealtime graces on troop camp-outs or benedictions at our troop\u2019s courts of honor. His only disagreement is not related to Scouting at all; it\u2019s simply with those two words in the Pledge of Allegiance.<\/strong><\/p>\n

But, among a vocal segment of the troop committee (and a few parents as well), this Scout\u2019s actions are seen as some sort of heresy. On top of this, we have a few military families who are having conniptions! These people have taken the position that if this Scout won\u2019t recite the full Pledge, as prescribed by Congress, then he\u2019s not \u201cliving the values of Scouting.\u201d They reference the BSA\u2019s Declaration of Religious Principle and throw around phrases like \u201cDuty to country,\u201d \u201cDuty to God,\u201d \u201cReverent,\u201d \u201cLoyal,\u201d \u201cObedient,\u201d and so forth, and hard at work constructing all sorts of roadblocks to this Scout\u2019s trail to Eagle. Some have even gone so far as to state that we should not re-register anyone who is\u2014as they\u2019ve labeled this Scout\u2014\u201cunpatriotic\u201d and \u201cnonreligious.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve sought advice about this situation from our Unit Commissioner. His response was: \u201cWell, why can’t the kid just say the words to shut these parents up?”<\/strong><\/p>\n

This response strikes me as either missing the point or ducking the issue\u2014neither of which is any help to me. This is why I\u2019m turning to you. Can you help? What should I do? Are these committee members and parent correct? Do I have to tell this young man that he\u2019s violating his Scouting obligations by refusing to say \u201cunder God\u201d while reciting the Pledge, and that he must change his ways or leave Scouting? Do I tell him his lack of \u201cpatriotism\u201d and lack of \u201cfaith\u201d makes him ineligible to become an Eagle Scout? Should I tell this young man to compromise his principles and just say the words to appease these people? Or is this Scout doing nothing wrong and I should just tell these others who\u2019d damn him\u2014in a Scout-like way, of course\u2014to blow it out their ears? How would I do that? Can the Committee Chair and Chartered Organization Representative really revoke membership or withhold rank advancement based on a Scout not saying the full Pledge of Allegiance? How should I proceed? (Name & Council Withheld)<\/strong><\/p>\n

I definitely understand and appreciate your situation, as well as this Scout\u2019s, and the troop committee members and parents. I believe we have three interlaced issues here. I\u2019m going to attempt to identify them and provide courses of action for each.<\/p>\n

First, for the Scout\u2026<\/p>\n

He is quite obviously living his life according to the tenets of the Scout Oath. In fact, he seems to be doing so at a high level. As you\u2019ve pointed out, he\u2019s in process of completing all stated requirements for all ranks through and including those of Eagle Scout. This includes five prior boards of review: Tenderfoot through Life rank, all of which have been successful\u2014something the troop committee needs to take into consideration. Moreover, he\u2019s practicing the principles expressed in the Scout Law as well, including \u201cObedient\u201d in particular.<\/p>\n

\u201cObedient\u201d states: \u201cA Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he seeks to have them changed in an orderly way.\u201d<\/p>\n

This Scout believes that \u201c\u2026under God\u2026\u201d as contained in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of our country augurs for an alliance of \u201cchurch and state,\u201d and he has stated his case in an appropriate medium and in an orderly, non-inflammatory way. Whether we agree with his position or not, he should be credited\u2014not chastised or punished\u2014for expressing himself in the manner he\u2019s chosen. Further, he demonstrates an understanding that the Supreme Court of the United States has declared the recitation of the Pledge to be voluntary; not mandatory\u2014something the troop committee and some parents have apparently overlooked or are ignorant of. Thus, by simply remaining silent as others speak the words \u201cunder God\u201d he is exercising his First Amendment right of free speech in as gentlemanly and Scout-like manner as is possible. (Admirably and specifically, as you\u2019ve pointed out, he has no reluctance whatsoever to recite the entire Scout Oath including \u201c\u2026do my duty to God and my country\u2026\u201d or the other 29 words of the Pledge of Allegiance.)<\/p>\n

Therefore, as long as he\u2019s prepared (as he quite obviously is) to respond in the affirmative to the question, \u201cDo you believe in God?\u201d\u2014a question that actually is rather inappropriate if not insulting in light of his ongoing adherence to the entire Scout Oath as well as his church activities and having served as the troop’s Chaplain Aide\u2014he has most definitely fulfilled Scouting\u2019s expectations in the area of belief.<\/p>\n

It strikes me, therefore, that this Scout should by all means continue in Scouting, including Eagle and well beyond that rank.<\/p>\n

Moving on, let\u2019s consider the members of the troop committee, and some parents, who believe something\u2019s amiss here, and that this Scout shouldn\u2019t be a member of the troop or the BSA, or become an Eagle Scout\u2026<\/p>\n

I would caution them in their use of inappropriate language describing this Scout. First, this Scout is violating no law, rule, mandate, or even principle. It is obvious by both his behavior and his attitude that he is neither \u201cunpatriotic,\u201d nor \u201cnonreligious,\u201d nor anything else of the sort. His action in writing an opinion piece for publication is admirable, in fact. It demonstrates not only his right as an individual to express himself publicly, but it confirms that Scouting has helped influence his life as a conscientious, thoughtful citizen. The fact that his school\u2019s newspaper published it\u2014and by so doing vetted it\u2014is a further indication of the acceptability of free expression when logically presented in a non-incendiary manner. I urge these misguided people to re-read what the Scout wrote, because it did not deny God at all, nor did it deny one\u2019s obligation to one\u2019s country. It put forth the proposition that, in the USA, \u201cchurch\u201d and \u201cstate\u201d must remain separate\u2014a founding principle of this country that can be traced back to our beginning 237 years ago.<\/p>\n

Further, these committee members do not represent themselves or the troop as a whole well when they use such characterizations toward anyone\u2014most especially a Scout who gives every appearance of being exemplary and more. Fact is, they\u2019re simply wrong. In accusing this Scout of \u201cnot reciting the Pledge in its entirety\u201d they\u2019re technically accurate but have lost sight of the larger issue: Reciting the Pledge is a voluntary act that cannot (and should not) be made mandatory. Plus, they\u2019re forgetting that the Scout Oath, which is indeed expected, is not at issue at all, as neither is the Scout Law.<\/p>\n

It should be pointed out that the chair of the committee does have the right to refuse signing this Scout\u2019s Eagle Scout Rank Application. This withholding, however, will not prevent this Scout from exercising his right to a board of review (see Guide to Advancement-\u201cBoard of review under disputed circumstances\u201d). Should this alternate route be forced on this Scout, he will have his board of review, it will be successful, and the only results with be that (1) this will have left an unpleasant mark in this Scout\u2019s memory of his troop experience and (2) the committee and its chair will have embarrassed themselves and the troop in the eyes of all involved, including those at the chartered organization, district, and council levels. Consequently, I urge the committee to reexamine their stance on this matter and not force this door to be opened.<\/p>\n

I also suggest that the committee consider this: Depending on how your council conducts Eagle boards of review, one or more of you might be present. Whoever that is, it had better be with \u201cclean hands.\u201d If any committee member can\u2019t be at the very least neutral on this issue, he or she is obligated to recuse participation.<\/p>\n

As for removal from his elected position of Senior Patrol Leader or outright dismissal from the troop, I urge extreme caution: This is news media fodder that will explode in their faces should they attempt it. It will explode because the premise for removal and dismissal is demonstrably wrong, and wrong-headed as well.<\/p>\n

As for the Unit Commissioner whose only guidance was that \u201cthe kid just say the words,\u201d I\u2019m obliged to believe he has the backbone of a chocolate \u00e9clair and needs counseling in order to be considered fit to serve further in this capacity.<\/p>\n

As for you and your role as Scoutmaster, your fundamental belief that certain committee members and parents are a bit off the mark, and that this Scout is worthy of the Eagle rank, is accurate. Since you, as Scoutmaster, are the front-line advocate for this Scout, stand strong. Defend your Scout. Call for a board of review under disputed circumstances if necessary and, regardless of whether or not this situation calls for this or a \u201cnormal\u201d board of review, be prepared to sit in on the review (the BSA permits Scoutmasters to do this, so don\u2019t let anyone tell you that you must stay out of the room) as an observer and\u2014if necessary\u2014advocate.<\/p>\n

Andy<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Have a question? Facing a dilemma? Wondering where to find a BSA policy or guideline? Write to askandybsa@yahoo.com. Please include your name and council. (If you\u2019d prefer to be anonymous, if published, let me know and that\u2019s what we\u2019ll do.)<\/strong><\/p>\n

[No. 380 \u2013 1\/15\/2014 \u2013 Copyright \u00a9 Andy McCommish 2014]<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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