{"id":2049,"date":"2016-07-26T19:48:58","date_gmt":"2016-07-26T23:48:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/?p=2049"},"modified":"2016-07-27T09:16:51","modified_gmt":"2016-07-27T13:16:51","slug":"issue-496-july-26-2016","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/2016\/07\/issue-496-july-26-2016\/","title":{"rendered":"Issue 496 \u2013 July 26, 2016"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\nHi Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

We held a Tenderfoot board of review last night for one of our newest Scouts. We had two committee members present. I had sent out an email to the committee last week, right after I\u2019d conferenced with this Scout, stressing the need for a review ASAP, but these two were the only ones who showed up after several phone calls to committee members and my having to advise one of my ASMs that he can\u2019t sit on reviews because of his registered position with the troop. Still one-short, I called one of our Scout\u2019s fathers, who is a former Scout, worked at Scout camp, and attended a National Scout Jamboree in the late 80s. I asked him if he could help out; he said yes, and came to the review immediately. As a result, the Scout successfully completed his Tenderfoot review! So here\u2019s my question\u2026 Was it actually okay for me to have a non-registered adult to help with this review (I don’t make this an ongoing practice) when we can’t find a third (or fourth, or more) committee member to show up? (Name & Council Withheld)<\/strong><\/p>\n

You absolutely did the right thing for the Scout. Yes, this is permissible, per the GTE, so long as it as it’s a “one-off” and not made standard practice. The long-term best solution here is for your committee chair to recruit one or two more committee members for the express purpose of sitting on boards of review for all ranks up to Eagle.
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\nDear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

One of the things I\u2019ve started doing when planning a troop trip is to make an Emergency Contact Sheet that includes the phone numbers and addresses of the nearest hospital and state police or sheriff\u2019s office where we\u2019ll be camping. If we\u2019re going to be in multiple locations, then each location will have the nearest hospital, law enforcement, and so on. I also have with me the phone number for our Chartered Organization Representative and who to call if there\u2019s a problem with the troop trailer.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Recently, I added the name and cell phone number of our Scout Executive and, if we\u2019ll be in a council area other than our own, then I look up the name of that council and get their contact information. Thinking about this, it would be really helpful if all councils have on their web page the cell phone number of the Scout Executive, since I\u2019d hope that if I had a problem, incident, or emergency, I\u2019d be able to inform the local S.E. of the situation and he might be able to provide assistance as necessary. Any chance you could feed that idea back to the national office and have them encourage councils to list an \u201cemergency\u201d number that a Scoutmaster could call in the event he need assistance from a professional? (Stephen) (Love your columns!)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I was a Scoutmaster, I did much the same as you’re doing. I like your idea of including the S.E.’s contact information as well (I didn’t think of doing that!), especially in the off-chance that an “incident” needs to be reported.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, feeding ideas to the national office is above my pay-grade. That said, I’m happy to publish your letter right here (folks in the national office do read these columns) and let’s see if it strikes a chord…
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\nDear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

As an adult volunteer working hours away from home and packing to meet the troop at the campsite this weekend, I assure you that there are more than \u201cten essentials\u201d for a back pack. I count 11. (We can\u2019t forget the back pack itself!) (Neal Cleary)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay eleven if you really want to include the pack. But since these are “for” a pack, I think it’s sorta understood…
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\nHi Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

I see the box in the handbook for the \u201cleader\u201d initials and date. But who is really able to initial and date as a requirement is completed? A committee member is considered a leader, but may have no clue how something is done, whereas a Star or Life Scout may not be a \u201cleader\u201d but has intimate knowledge about a certain requirement. (Bob Mitchell)<\/strong><\/p>\n

It may come as a surprise, but here\u2019s the deal: Committee members really don’t generally interface with Scouts. This is what the Scoutmaster and ASMs (if any) do. Committee members are the “back room” support folks.<\/p>\n

So, with that in mind, “Leader” can certainly be the Scoutmaster or designated ASM, and can even be the Scout’s Patrol Leader, a Junior Assistant Scoutmaster, or\u2014in certain circumstances\u2014the Senior Patrol Leader. It can even be a Scout holding the position of Instructor. But a random Star or Life or Eagle Scout isn’t the logical place to go because\u2014as you point out\u2014he may not be a “Leader.” A Scout who’s First Class or above in rank can certainly be the instructor (lower-case “i” here) who then asks a “Leader” to sign the Scout off on having completed the requirement.
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\nHi Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019m a Merit Badge Counselor. My Scout grandson is 16 and lives with me. Do I need \u201ctwo-deep\u201d when working on a merit badge with him? (Ben Hayes)<\/strong><\/p>\n

It’s not “two-deep” that’s needed when counseling; there simply needs to be a third person (adult or youth, related or not\u2014it doesn’t matter so long as that person is in earshot [they don’t have to be “visible”]). Your grandson can have a Scout “buddy” or your wife can simply be at home. Either is just fine. That said, because you’re his grandparent, I’d say you two are just fine! Or, if you really want to be 110% on the mark, you two can meet in a public place, like your local library or even on your front porch (weather permitting).
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\nHi Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019m with a troop that does merit badges differently from other troops I\u2019ve been involved with in the past. In this troop, we will sign up several merit badge counselors for merit badges (usually Eagle-required badges), and then, on a once-a-month \u201cadvancement night,\u201d our troop\u2019s Advancement Coordinator announces to the Scouts the advancement requirements they need to work on, or merit badges they need to work on. He then instructs the Scouts to get with a counselor (they\u2019re already in the troop meeting room) to work on the badge. For instance, a Scout might be told, “Johnny, you\u2019re working on requirement 5a of the Camping badge, so go see Mr. White.” The Scout then goes over to Mr. White and works on that requirement. At the end of the night, the counselors then tell the Advancement Coordinator what\u2019s been done for which merit badges, and these are checked off in the \u201cTroop Master\u201d software. (Yes, I know that Counselors are technically council-level positions, but our district tells troops to use their own MBCs.)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Anyway, I\u2019ve had Scouts who started with me as their counselor and suddenly they are awarded the merit badge at a court of honor! Turns out that they\u2019d gone to another counselor to do unfinished requirements, as directed by the Advancement Coordinator. In the past, I\u2019d start with the Scout on a badge and I\u2019d work with that Scout until he had it all done, after which I\u2019d sign his \u201cblue card\u201d and give the Scout his two segments. If the Scout was from the troop I\u2019m with, I\u2019d tell the advancement folks and they\u2019d order the badge(s).<\/strong><\/p>\n

Is there not some principle that says that one of the purposes of merit badges is to allow youth association with adults? I think my current troop\u2019s method short-circuits that. Can you tell me if I am wrong about this? (Name & Council Withheld)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks for asking about one of the most important issues in all of Scouting.<\/p>\n

Yup, this troop’s “method” is short-circuiting a whole lotta stuff! Mostly, it’s short-circuiting 50% of the purpose of the BSA merit badge program (which you’ll find in all BSA literature on this important aspect of Boy Scouting): Scout INITIATIVE!<\/p>\n

The merit badge program is specifically designed so that it’s the Scout (and no one else) who decides what merit badge(s) to earn, when, and with what counselor. It’s in the Handbook: Pick a merit badge, tell your Scoutmaster, get a counselor’s name and contact information from your Scoutmaster, call up the counselor, set an appointment to meet, and then meet eyeball-to-eyeball to get started on the requirements…and continue to work with this adult until you’ve completed the requirements.<\/p>\n

This process\u2014which has been in place for decades\u2014is absolutely deliberate. It follows the principle that advancement (or not) is in the hands of the Scout, first and foremost, and virtually exclusively.<\/p>\n

For a troop to short-cut half of the process\u2014the most important half, in fact\u2014denies Scouts the opportunity to grow into young men who can take personal responsibility for themselves, develop a sense of initiative, contact a total “stranger” (who’s an adult, no less), and collaborate with that adult to achieve an end-goal. What this troop is ultimately doing is treating these Scouts as infants, by spoon-feeding them “badges” instead of life experiences.<\/p>\n

How do we expect to develop young people who are Prepared for Life if we do for them what they’re supposed to be doing for themselves?<\/p>\n

Thanks Andy! I\u2019d like to bring this up with the Scoutmaster, who\u2019s a reasonable guy, and our Committee Chair, who is a former advancement coordinator (and may have set up this method). Can you help me out, first, with some answers to some questions (and I\u2019ll appreciate where, in BSA literature, I can find these answers)\u2026?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Should the Scout stay with the same councilor for the merit badge?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Does the Scout have to use the \u201cblue cards\u201d to work on the merit badge?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Should the Scout go outside the troop for a merit badge councilor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Does the Scout have to read the merit badge pamphlet for the badge?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Can a Scout be denied starting a new badge if he has too many unfinished ones?<\/strong><\/p>\n

What is the job of the Advancement Coordinator?<\/strong><\/p>\n

You need to make a small investment. In addition to the current SCOUT HANDBOOK (which I’m assuming you already have), get yourself two other books: 2016 BOY SCOUT REQUIREMENTS (SKU 621535) and GUIDE TO ADVANCEMENT 2015 (SKU 620 573). These are available at your local council’s Scout shop or online via scoutstuff.org.<\/p>\n

Here are some answers, but I’m going to leave the research you, because, in searching them out, you’re going to learn a whole bunch of other stuff that will help you help your troop AND the Scouts…<\/p>\n

Should the Scout stay with the same councilor for the merit badge?
\nIt\u2019s not mandatory that a Scout do this, and sometimes it can\u2019t be done (e.g., he gets a \u201cpartial\u201d at summer camp and then completes the requirements once home), but, whenever possible, it\u2019s definitely the better way to proceed. That said, if the Scout is in any way unhappy with a counselor, he has the right to go to his Scoutmaster and ask for the name and contact information for another counselor.<\/em><\/p>\n

Does the Scout have to use the blue cards to work on the merit badge?
\nYes.<\/em><\/p>\n

Should the Scout go outside the troop for a merit badge counselor?
\nOf course! This is 50% of the purpose of the BSA Merit Badge Program; that is, to contact and work with an adult he doesn\u2019t know.<\/em><\/p>\n

Does the Scout have to read the merit badge pamphlet for the badge?
\nAny Scout who doesn\u2019t avail himself of the wonderful information in the corresponding merit badge pamphlet is just plain foolish.<\/em><\/p>\n

Can a Scout be denied starting a new badge if he has too many unfinished ones?
\nNo. That said, his Scoutmaster would want to conference with the Scout to unearth what the problem(s) may be…<\/em><\/p>\n

What is the job of the Advancement Coordinator?
\nFundamentally: Record-keeping.<\/em><\/p>\n

Happy Scouting!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Andy<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Have a question? Facing a dilemma? Wondering where to find a BSA policy or guideline? Write to askandybsa@yahoo.com. Please include your name and council. (If you\u2019d prefer to be anonymous, if published, let me know and that\u2019s what we\u2019ll do.)<\/strong><\/p>\n

[No. 496 \u2013 7\/26\/2016 \u2013 Copyright \u00a9 Andy McCommish 2016]<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

________________________________________ Hi Andy, We held a Tenderfoot board of review last night for one of our newest Scouts. We had two committee members present. I had sent out an email to the committee last week, right after I\u2019d conferenced with this Scout, stressing the need for a review ASAP, but these two were the only […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2049","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2049","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2049"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2049\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2057,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2049\/revisions\/2057"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2049"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2049"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2049"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}