{"id":2270,"date":"2017-11-28T11:58:04","date_gmt":"2017-11-28T16:58:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/?p=2270"},"modified":"2017-11-28T11:58:04","modified_gmt":"2017-11-28T16:58:04","slug":"issue-552-november-28-2017","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/2017\/11\/issue-552-november-28-2017\/","title":{"rendered":"Issue 552 \u2013 November 28, 2017"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\nIn this column\u2026<\/strong><\/em><\/span>
\n \u2022 Rank- and grade-appropriate \u201cCyber Chip\u201d earning<\/strong><\/em><\/span>
\n \u2022 BSA Membership numbers\u2014How it works<\/strong><\/em><\/span>
\n \u2022 Keeping your Scout troop \u201cScout-led\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/span>
\n \u2022 Lone Scout service opportunity\u2026By a former Lone Scout<\/strong><\/em><\/span>
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\nHi Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

Our troop has a Scout who will be First Class on December 6th. Then, for Star rank, he will need to “(with his parent or guardian) complete the exercises in the pamphlet \u2018How to Protect your Children from Child Abuse: A Parent’s Guide\u2019 and earn the Cyber Chip award for your grade.” He actually did this back in September, and he\u2019ll still be in the same grade when he earns Star. Does he need to repeat this requirement? (John Burnham)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Good news! Since that requirement doesn’t say “While a First Class Scout…” he’s already just fine and doesn’t have to do a repeat! Yay!
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\nDear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

On the unit number problem that you spoke about in an earlier column, I\u2019ve recently seen both scenarios. In Cimarron Council, we had a pack, troop, and crew with the same number; now in the Greater St. Louis Area Council, most troops seem to have three-digit numbers and crews are the same number as their sister troops, but add a \u201c2\u201d at the front of the troops\u2019 numbers. This makes it definitely not consistent council-to-council.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Related to this, when my family relocated this past summer, and my two Venturers transferred to GSLAC, they were assigned new membership numbers. This didn\u2019t make sense to me, as I thought the membership number was \u201cnational.\u201d When I asked, I was told that not all councils are on the same network, so they request the records from the old council, for transfers, enter them by hand here. It still doesn\u2019t make sense to me, but I don\u2019t know if there are any potential issues. (Rick Hautekeete)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yup, the “unit numbers” thing is pretty odd and I hope they can work it out.<\/p>\n

About your membership number question, in your shoes I’d pick up the phone, call the BSA national office (972-580-2000), and ask to speak with someone who’s involved in this aspect; then tell ’em exactly what you’ve told me and see what the answer is…<\/p>\n

Thanks, Andy. I did call, as you suggested, and the national office says you get a new membership number when you change Councils. (Rick)<\/strong>
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\nHi Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

My grandson is an Eagle Scout and he\u2019s in a Venturing crew. He\u2019ll turn 18 in January. He\u2019s earned a big bunch of merit badges already\u2014he\u2019s just put in for his third bronze palm this month. Even though he\u2019ll be 18 in another month-and-a-half, can he continue to earn merit badges\u2014and palms\u2014as a Venturer until he\u2019s 21? (Ben Hayes)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Merit badges\u2014which are Boy Scout recognitions\u2014can be earned up to age 18. The same applies to palms\u2014which are also Boy Scout recognitions. Both of these stop on your grandson\u2019s 18th birthday.<\/p>\n

And, by the way, instead of wearing multiple bronze palms on the Eagle medal\u2019s ribbon, your grandson will want to convert to the \u201ccolor order\u201d of palms, so that, when he receives his palm for having earned a total of 15 merit badges beyond the 21 for Eagle, he\u2019ll remove any bronze palms from his ribbon and, instead, now wear a silver palm.
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\nHello Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

After having been an Assistant Scoutmaster for the past six years, under two successive Scoutmasters, I\u2019ll be assuming that role myself next month. During my tenure as an ASM, I\u2019ve noticed various discipline and bullying issues in our troop, including disrespect to their surroundings and their fellow Scouts. So, I\u2019m looking for some guidance or, better yet, “words” to convey to the Scouts, in an effort to eliminate or at least reduce these ongoing problems.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019m thinking working with the older Scouts first, and then addressing the whole troop. At the outset, I\u2019d hold a meeting with the older Scouts and other adult leaders only, with no non-registered parents present. Then, once I\u2019ve had my say, I\u2019d allow the older Scouts and the adult leaders to discuss the situation, including how the \u201ctroop culture\u201d needs to change and how it will change. What do you think? Any words or advice would be greatly appreciated. (Fred Weissert, Laurel Highlands Council, PA)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Your upcoming role as Scoutmaster actually doesn\u2019t necessarily involve your addressing the entire troop. Reason why: This can disrupt the troop’s leadership structure and function. Let\u2019s remember that “troop” means the Scouts; not the adult volunteer infrastructure supporting the Scouts. Consequently, the true top leader of the troop itself is the Senior Patrol Leader. All Patrol Leaders ultimately report to the SPL, and all Scouts in all patrols report to their individual Patrol Leader. (This is why these are the only positions in the troop that are decided by election and are never, ever “appointed”.)<\/p>\n

So your first action\u2014which can actually begin right now\u2014is to get to know and begin to support the Senior Patrol Leader\u2014whom you\u2019re going to be coaching, encouraging, and mentoring once you\u2019re Scoutmaster. This way, you and he can converse about your concerns and you can (this is very important!) listen to what your SPL has to say on the subject. From this conversation, you and he can decide and agree on how this should be handled (which won’t be you addressing either the troop as a whole or even the Patrol Leaders unless there are issues of personal physical safety involved) by the SPL. If the two of you do agree that this should be discussed (understand that you two can decide to “table” this for a while), then the SPL (with your coaching) is the one to do this\u2014at the first Patrol Leaders Council (aka “PLC”) meeting that you and he attend together. When you do this, keep in mind further that the SPL is the chair of the PLC meeting and the Scoutmaster sits in a chair near, but behind, the SPL.<\/p>\n

When the SPL you’re coaching brings up this subject, it can’t be along the lines of “here’s what you PLs are gonna do…” Instead, the SPL presents the problem and asks the PLs for ideas on how to deal with it. Once agreement on this is reached, then the PLs will carry out what they’ve agreed upon, each with his own patrol.<\/p>\n

This is a significant part of what’s meant by “a troop is Scout-run” and it’s critical to the troop’s ultimate success in delivering the Scouting program the way it’s meant to be. (A troop without The Patrol Method in place is nothing more than a bunch of boys in tan shirts… It’s not Scouting!)<\/p>\n

If you\u2019re willing to follow this plan, you\u2019ll be strengthening the SPL, giving focus to the PLs, and quietly improving the overall \u201ctroop culture\u201d!
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\nDear Andy,<\/strong><\/p>\n

In reading about commissioners, I see that there\u2019s a suggested position called Assistant Council Commissioner\u2014Lone Scouts. Having been a Lone Scout myself and an Eagle Scout, and now experienced in Scouting for many years, I’d like to volunteer to serve in this position for my council. How would you suggest I go about doing this and do you have any suggestions? (Aidan)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Wow! An Eagle-Lone Scout! You’re the first I’ve ever met! Thanks for finding me and for writing. I hope I can help…<\/p>\n

I think the best way to begin is checking with the local council that serves the area where you live (any search engine should take you there). Then, locate the service center’s phone number and call ’em up. As for the Scout Executive and tell ’em what you’ve just described to me… The SE may have an idea where and how you can help.<\/p>\n

Alternatively (or as a back-up step if the first doesn’t work out), go to http:\/\/www.lonescouting.org\/<\/em><\/span> and dig into their website to see if it’ll take you where you’d like to go.<\/p>\n

Good luck with this! It’s great to know a Lone Scout who’d like to find a way to help others!<\/p>\n

Happy Scouting!<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Andy<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Have a question? Facing a dilemma? Wondering where to find a BSA policy or guideline? Just to me at: askandybsa@yahoo.com. Please include your name and council. (If you\u2019d prefer to be anonymous, if published, let me know and that\u2019s what we\u2019ll do.)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

[No. 552\u2013 11\/28\/2017 \u2013 Copyright \u00a9 Andy McCommish 2017]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

________________________________________ In this column\u2026 \u2022 Rank- and grade-appropriate \u201cCyber Chip\u201d earning \u2022 BSA Membership numbers\u2014How it works \u2022 Keeping your Scout troop \u201cScout-led\u201d \u2022 Lone Scout service opportunity\u2026By a former Lone Scout ============================= Hi Andy, Our troop has a Scout who will be First Class on December 6th. Then, for Star rank, he will need […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2270","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2270","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2270"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2270\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2277,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2270\/revisions\/2277"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2270"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2270"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2270"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}