{"id":435,"date":"2007-07-09T13:23:15","date_gmt":"2007-07-09T17:23:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/?p=435"},"modified":"2011-11-08T13:24:22","modified_gmt":"2011-11-08T18:24:22","slug":"issue-109-july-9-2007","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/netcommissioner.com\/askandy\/2007\/07\/issue-109-july-9-2007\/","title":{"rendered":"Issue 109 &#8211; July 9, 2007"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The letter you\u2019re about to read is true. I\u2019ve deleted some minor details and all names in order to protect the parties to this, but everything you\u2019re about to read happened&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Dear Andy, <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>I\u2019m a Life Scout, age 17 (I\u2019ll be 18 in seven months). I earned Life rank in the troop I was in before the one I\u2019m in now. My family moved from one state to another about two months ago, and my original troop is now more than a thousand miles away! Before we moved, I had completed all my merit badges for Eagle, my service project (with all signatures in the right places in my workbook), and I had served as Senior Patrol Leader of my original troop for seven months. But at almost exactly the same time as I was putting together a list of references and was about to ask my Scoutmaster for my Scoutmaster\u2019s Conference for Eagle, our family moved, and so I transferred into a troop here in our new town.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>When I first joined this troop I thought it would be a good idea to get to know some of the Scouts in it, and the leaders, too. So I\u2019ve been to every single troop meeting, and also helped some of the Scouts in it with service projects. Then I went to my new Scoutmaster with everything I\u2019d done for Eagle and asked for a Conference. I showed him my Handbook, where requirements 1 and 4 were signed and dated, gave him a list of my references for requirement 2, showed him my merit badge cards and blue card stubs for requirement 3, and showed him the workbook for my service project with the four required signatures in the front and the two at the end.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>But instead of giving me a date and time for the Conference, the Scoutmaster told me that I\u2019m not \u201cEagle quality\u201d (his words) and gave me three choices. He said I could quit Scouting, or stay in the troop if I wanted to but know that I\u2019ll never be an Eagle Scout, or go find another troop. He said that even though I\u2019ve been coming to troop meetings and helping other Scouts, I\u2019m not showing Scout spirit because I haven\u2019t gone on any campouts. I explained to him that in a year I\u2019ll be graduating from high school and I work afternoons Mondays through Fridays and all day Saturdays and Sundays to earn money for college. He told me, \u201cSo what.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>He said that I\u2019m \u201cnot showing leadership initiative.\u201d I told him that he is the one who refused to assign me to the Senior Patrol when I joined the troop (this patrol is made up of Scouts who are my age and, although I was told I have to have a leadership position to be a member in it the Scoutmaster wouldn\u2019t hear of making me a Junior Assistant Scoutmaster, there are definitely guys in this patrol who have no leadership jobs in the troop at all). Instead, he put me in a patrol of Scouts 11 to 13 years old! I\u2019ve showed them some stuff for their Second and First Class requirements, but the Scoutmaster told me this doesn\u2019t count because I \u201cshould\u201d be doing this anyway. (I described this to my parents, and they said it\u2019s a \u201cCatch 22,\u201d and so I looked that up and it sure is!)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>I tried to tell my Scoutmaster that I have already completed every requirement for Eagle, but he said that that\u2019s not enough, that \u201cthis troop has higher standards,\u201d and then he gave me a list of things I would have to do for the next six months to be \u201cconsidered\u201d for Eagle. Here it is: <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>(1) Attend 75% of all troop meetings; <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>(2) Attend the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">greater<\/span> of 10 days or 50% of all outside troop activities, and including 6 overnights (if I do anything here for less than 5 hours, it will only count for a half-day);<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>(3) Hold a leadership position that he\u2019ll select; <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>(4) \u201cShow initiative\u201d by helping other Scouts. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>I asked to speak to the troop committee and chairman about this, and the Scoutmaster said OK, but the first thing these men told me was that I\u2019m \u201cpathetic\u201d and \u201ca joke.\u201d I was stunned and asked if they were joking with me. They were not!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>One of the men said that he had told me over and over that I needed to go to a special troop campout and I had refused, but when I challenged this he finally admitted that all he had done was ask me one time if I was going and I told him that I couldn\u2019t because I had to work that weekend (I work every weekend). Their solution to my working for college was that I should \u201cget my priorities right\u201d and quit my job.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>They did acknowledge that I\u2019d completed my own Eagle project, but went on to say that I don\u2019t help others with their projects. I pointed out that I was at all but one workday for two different Scouts in the troop. Their only response was, \u201cOh.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>When I asked them why they hadn\u2019t sat me down right away to tell me they were having had a problem with me, their answer was that they \u201cwanted to see what I would do on my own.\u201d They said they didn\u2019t tell me I needed to go on a specific number of campouts because I would have gone on that number just to please them and not because I wanted to. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>To make sure I was understanding them, I re-stated what I thought they were telling me: That no matter what I do\u2014if I go on every campout and hold leadership positions\u2014<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">nothing<\/span> is going to be good enough. They said, \u201cThat\u2019s right.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>They told me they were just being nice to me by telling me this now, so I would have time to find a new troop. But they also told me that if that troop contacted them to find out about me, they\u2019d say that, in their estimation, I\u2019m \u201cnot Eagle material.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Is there anything that can be done about this situation? Thanks!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>(Name &amp; Council Withheld)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>OK, readers, there you have it. That\u2019s the story. Here\u2019s the question: What do <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">you<\/span> think should happen here?<\/p>\n<p>Write to me with your thinking on this and I\u2019ll put what you have to say in a column right away.<\/p>\n<p>Happy Scouting!<\/p>\n<form>\n<h3>Andy<\/h3>\n<\/form>\n<p><strong> Got a question? Send it to me at<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"mailto:AskAndyBSA@yahoo.com\">AskAndyBSA@yahoo.com<\/a><\/span>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> (Please include your <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">council name and home state<\/span>)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(July 9, 2007 \u2013 Copyright \u00a9 Andy McCommish 2007)<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The letter you\u2019re about to read is true. I\u2019ve deleted some minor details and all names in order to protect the parties to this, but everything you\u2019re about to read happened&#8230; Dear Andy, I\u2019m a Life Scout, age 17 (I\u2019ll be 18 in seven months). 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